Subwoofer Custom What enclosure do you think would work best for me? Hey guys, I just got my subs and amplifier and I'm wondering what enclosure would be best for me. I have two Rockford P2 12 inch subs and a kenwood thousand watt amp. Not sure what else you need to know..
-Mike
Answer:
Nice choice going with the P2 subwoofers Mike! These are truly a great sub for the money. The magnets are really well designed to where they would fool most people into thinking that the system is much more expensive than it really is. We love RF products and stand behind them any day of the week.
There are a couple ways to go about answering your question/s. For one, sometimes the choice of enclosure really determines what type of bass you are really craving from the system yourself. For example:
Sealed boxes give a more crisp sound and make the bass louder inside of your vehicle. People that don't want problems with the law enforcement or just don't want other people hearing the bass, sometimes go with a sealed enclosure. Sealed boxes have been around for ages and that's sometimes the only choice people THINK they have.
Vented boxes are said to of been or be twice as loud as sealed boxes. I'm not sure if I completely believe that it's technically double the loudness, but I do agree that when in the right situation they are A LOT louder than sealed enclosures. Vented boxes need to be tuned and built to the perfect dimensions for your subwoofer though. Most people do not know this and they just buy ANY vented box. There are recommended sub specs that come with your subwoofer with your purchase. Check the manual. You can also check out Crutchfield's Subwoofer Custom Enclosure Guide for more information too.
There are other styles of boxes but those are the two that I think will be the most likely for you and your setup. If you want my straight opinion, I would def go with the vented box with the P2 12's. I have personally heard them in a sealed box versus a vented and it's a world of difference for loudness. That is, if your going for loudness.
Thanks for the great question Mike!
Where can I find a custom box for my truck? I have a truck with a small area in the back but it is really the only room I have for a system. I want a huge system but I do not have room for it. What can I do?
Answer:
Thanks for the great question emailed to us. There are a couple of options you can go about this situation. There are tons of small vehicles that are packed with huge components. At times, smaller spaces are preferred to have the vehicle almost work as a box like situation.. but that is a bit complex to get into right now.
This is just where you or a professional builds the box just a smaller size to fit your environment. A lot of people do not like this route because most times than not, the subwoofers call for a specific amount of cubic space in the box to sound "to their best."
Option 2 is to buy specific "shallow mount" subwoofers for these smaller enclosures you had built or bought. A lot of people think these subs don't sound as good as regular subs but I dare them to tell me that after hearing a pair of p3's or some other good brands. It's all about how you spend your money.
Option 3 is the best option for you, in my opinion. Now listen closely cause this may be hard to understand in just a quick read. "Transform" your bed into a subwoofer enclosure. Places custom build boxes that are one big box, but they go from inside of the truck to the inside of the box. This is somewhat hard to explain in words..
Pretend that you are sitting in the driver's seat of a small pickup with no extended cab. The subwoofers would literally be right behind the seats, but the entire box would be a tiny bit in the cab of the truck and the rest would be in the bed of the truck. Most people get hard tops to go over the bed if this happens. Good luck!
Fiberglass Custom Box Question?? I know the whole process of mixing the fiberglass and applying it and such, but my question is how much of the small tube do I mix with the actual resin? I thought I mixed enough and I had a huge mess because the resign didn't harden. Now I'm sanding wet resign.. PLEASE HELP!
Jossee M.
Answer:
Thanks for the question Jossee. It's cool to get somewhat of a different question. We have a tendency to only get strict wiring and amplifier and subwoofer questions. I love the change up of an enclosure question. Too many forget how important an enclosure can be to a car stereo system.
Fiberglassing is an art and takes practice to get it right. I always tell people to test on things other than your final project that you want to turn out great. But in your case, it is already too late. A little advice on the wet resign, hit up your local car wash where you can do it yourself and spray the living hell out of the resign. After that you can spray some anti greaser on it to try and wipe away as much as you can.
If you try to sand wet resign away just as pure wet resign.. you will go through tons upon tons of sandpaper. Do not take this approach.
When mixing the resign with the hardener mixer, too much is better than not enough. When I was younger and doing this type of stuff I use to always buy an extra thing of hardener. I made the mistake you just did once and it was a nightmare to clean up.
I learned that too much is 1 billion times better than not enough hardener.
It will take lots of practice and trial and error to figure out what it will take for the brand of resign you buy to mix happily with the hardener. It's tough to just give you an exact number of measurement.. but you will figure it out with trial and error. Some say that too much will give you a weaker bond.. but I don't believe in that.
Also do not forget that your subwoofers may need custom fit holes in the box and that the size of the holes are different depending on the subwoofers.
Do I have to separate subs inside fiberglass enclosure? I'm building a custom fiberglass box for my car and the box is going to contain different size subwoofers. One set will contain two Audiobahn 10 inch subs and the other set will be two 15s or 18s. I'm looking to really get all of the lows and highs of all the bass in the world!
Do I have to separate the "sub boxes / spaces" inside the box? Will the pressure pushing on the 10s wreck them? I have no idea what to do here. Please help????
Sammy J.
Answer:
Great question Sammy. I'm feeling a bit sick today so don't think I'm crabby if I'm to the point and getting to the best answer of your question. Thanks for visiting the sites and emailing me this question. We appreciate it.
The best answer for splitting up the boxes of the sub is YES. The pressure differences will be very different and teh bigger subs would or could most likely tear apart those 10s. Thats why with some very big subwoofers they use thicker wood for the sound levels to bounce off of. And that thinner cone on that smaller sub will get destroyed.
A word of advice, I have seen people try this "mixing subs" and not been happy with the turn out. You think it would catch more beats because that is the math of it, but truly it sort of comes out as just a blah sound of nothing but extreme bass. If your looking to mix match the highs and the lows.. maybe shoot for 6 or 8 inch subs and split them up. Maybe put the 8 inch woofers up in the front of your vehicle.
We do love all ideas though and never judge what our guests do because that is what makes the automotive field such a cool field to display your ideas and artistic abilities through. Maybe your design will be ground breaking and I will sit here looking like a fool. ( Has happened). Do what you love and feel is best.
Have fun and crank the bass! Thanks again for visiting.
-Mike
Answer:
Nice choice going with the P2 subwoofers Mike! These are truly a great sub for the money. The magnets are really well designed to where they would fool most people into thinking that the system is much more expensive than it really is. We love RF products and stand behind them any day of the week.
There are a couple ways to go about answering your question/s. For one, sometimes the choice of enclosure really determines what type of bass you are really craving from the system yourself. For example:
Sealed boxes give a more crisp sound and make the bass louder inside of your vehicle. People that don't want problems with the law enforcement or just don't want other people hearing the bass, sometimes go with a sealed enclosure. Sealed boxes have been around for ages and that's sometimes the only choice people THINK they have.
Vented boxes are said to of been or be twice as loud as sealed boxes. I'm not sure if I completely believe that it's technically double the loudness, but I do agree that when in the right situation they are A LOT louder than sealed enclosures. Vented boxes need to be tuned and built to the perfect dimensions for your subwoofer though. Most people do not know this and they just buy ANY vented box. There are recommended sub specs that come with your subwoofer with your purchase. Check the manual. You can also check out Crutchfield's Subwoofer Custom Enclosure Guide for more information too.
There are other styles of boxes but those are the two that I think will be the most likely for you and your setup. If you want my straight opinion, I would def go with the vented box with the P2 12's. I have personally heard them in a sealed box versus a vented and it's a world of difference for loudness. That is, if your going for loudness.
Thanks for the great question Mike!
Where can I find a custom box for my truck? I have a truck with a small area in the back but it is really the only room I have for a system. I want a huge system but I do not have room for it. What can I do?
Answer:
Thanks for the great question emailed to us. There are a couple of options you can go about this situation. There are tons of small vehicles that are packed with huge components. At times, smaller spaces are preferred to have the vehicle almost work as a box like situation.. but that is a bit complex to get into right now.
This is just where you or a professional builds the box just a smaller size to fit your environment. A lot of people do not like this route because most times than not, the subwoofers call for a specific amount of cubic space in the box to sound "to their best."
Option 2 is to buy specific "shallow mount" subwoofers for these smaller enclosures you had built or bought. A lot of people think these subs don't sound as good as regular subs but I dare them to tell me that after hearing a pair of p3's or some other good brands. It's all about how you spend your money.
Option 3 is the best option for you, in my opinion. Now listen closely cause this may be hard to understand in just a quick read. "Transform" your bed into a subwoofer enclosure. Places custom build boxes that are one big box, but they go from inside of the truck to the inside of the box. This is somewhat hard to explain in words..
Pretend that you are sitting in the driver's seat of a small pickup with no extended cab. The subwoofers would literally be right behind the seats, but the entire box would be a tiny bit in the cab of the truck and the rest would be in the bed of the truck. Most people get hard tops to go over the bed if this happens. Good luck!
Fiberglass Custom Box Question?? I know the whole process of mixing the fiberglass and applying it and such, but my question is how much of the small tube do I mix with the actual resin? I thought I mixed enough and I had a huge mess because the resign didn't harden. Now I'm sanding wet resign.. PLEASE HELP!
Jossee M.
Answer:
Thanks for the question Jossee. It's cool to get somewhat of a different question. We have a tendency to only get strict wiring and amplifier and subwoofer questions. I love the change up of an enclosure question. Too many forget how important an enclosure can be to a car stereo system.
Fiberglassing is an art and takes practice to get it right. I always tell people to test on things other than your final project that you want to turn out great. But in your case, it is already too late. A little advice on the wet resign, hit up your local car wash where you can do it yourself and spray the living hell out of the resign. After that you can spray some anti greaser on it to try and wipe away as much as you can.
If you try to sand wet resign away just as pure wet resign.. you will go through tons upon tons of sandpaper. Do not take this approach.
When mixing the resign with the hardener mixer, too much is better than not enough. When I was younger and doing this type of stuff I use to always buy an extra thing of hardener. I made the mistake you just did once and it was a nightmare to clean up.
I learned that too much is 1 billion times better than not enough hardener.
It will take lots of practice and trial and error to figure out what it will take for the brand of resign you buy to mix happily with the hardener. It's tough to just give you an exact number of measurement.. but you will figure it out with trial and error. Some say that too much will give you a weaker bond.. but I don't believe in that.
Also do not forget that your subwoofers may need custom fit holes in the box and that the size of the holes are different depending on the subwoofers.
Do I have to separate subs inside fiberglass enclosure? I'm building a custom fiberglass box for my car and the box is going to contain different size subwoofers. One set will contain two Audiobahn 10 inch subs and the other set will be two 15s or 18s. I'm looking to really get all of the lows and highs of all the bass in the world!
Do I have to separate the "sub boxes / spaces" inside the box? Will the pressure pushing on the 10s wreck them? I have no idea what to do here. Please help????
Sammy J.
Answer:
Great question Sammy. I'm feeling a bit sick today so don't think I'm crabby if I'm to the point and getting to the best answer of your question. Thanks for visiting the sites and emailing me this question. We appreciate it.
The best answer for splitting up the boxes of the sub is YES. The pressure differences will be very different and teh bigger subs would or could most likely tear apart those 10s. Thats why with some very big subwoofers they use thicker wood for the sound levels to bounce off of. And that thinner cone on that smaller sub will get destroyed.
A word of advice, I have seen people try this "mixing subs" and not been happy with the turn out. You think it would catch more beats because that is the math of it, but truly it sort of comes out as just a blah sound of nothing but extreme bass. If your looking to mix match the highs and the lows.. maybe shoot for 6 or 8 inch subs and split them up. Maybe put the 8 inch woofers up in the front of your vehicle.
We do love all ideas though and never judge what our guests do because that is what makes the automotive field such a cool field to display your ideas and artistic abilities through. Maybe your design will be ground breaking and I will sit here looking like a fool. ( Has happened). Do what you love and feel is best.
Have fun and crank the bass! Thanks again for visiting.
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